>> if the shop votes -- >> as a communist as a guy that lived in russia, how does it seem like that's good policy? how could you argue -- >> am i going to dignify -- >> if you are someone in a union who has been in it for a long time and you pay your dues, everyone else will benefit from what you're paying and someone is a hanger-on and get the benefits -- >> the right-to-work state in terms of employment. >> you remind me of guys in saudi arabia. when i was in saudi arabia i talked to a bunch of guys and what's your biggest problem, i was doing this thing on the economy. they said israel. it's 1,500 miles away and you're a country with all kinds of problems. the unions are 12% and declining and the republicans think the unions are the israel of saudi arabia. it's crazy! >> 24 states are right to work now. why is it such a threatening thing for individual people to be able to say i don't want to give money toe someone who i know is going to give money to one political party? >> i don't think that's crazy. i just think that -- >> explain to us -- i wa to hear dan's perspective -- >> un